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Graham Cunningham's avatar

Fascinating empirical-graph-rich essay. Here is my more discursive-ancdotal essay on similar theme:

https://grahamcunningham.substack.com/p/teach-your-children-well - including this "excerpt from a dystopian imaginative piece about the prospect of ‘Permanent Education in 1984’ because I find it eerily prescient of our 21st c. Therapeutic Culture. “A child is born in the United States in 1984. He can never look forward to getting out of school. From the ‘infant school’ he starts attending at the age of six months to the ‘geriatric learning centre’ he dies in, he finds himself going to school all his life ‘for the good of society’......and so we bid goodbye to this lucky man, the minister chants, ‘firm in the conviction that he will go to heaven where he will attend a ‘school for angels.’”(John Ohliger)"

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Again a very good essay by Cremieux!

When it comes to the German educational system, I think there's a lot more to say (of course), but I'll try to keep it short (and very incomplete, of course).

First, it's quite telling that you refer to 2003 PISA data, which (of course) leaves unchecked the transformation that has taken place since then. My Abitur dates back to 2000; back then, already more than 25% (highly instructive: https://www.datenportal.bmbf.de/portal/de/Tabelle-2.5.85.html) of the year’s cohort of school leavers got the formerly so prestigious Abitur. It wasn't very elite in 2000 anymore, but it also wasn't a shallowly complimentary addition to a birth certificate like it is today. When I went through Germany's school system,

(1) You needed the elementary school's recommendation to enter the Gymnasium after elementary school;

(2) At the Gymnasium roughly (speaking anecdotally from memory), 60% of pupils didn't make it into the Oberstufe;

(3) Out of roughly 180 pupils in the 5th grade (6 classes à 30 pupils), 72 finished with the Abitur (69 of them ethnically European; by the way, there were very, very few non-Europeans at my school at all back then, and the Gymnasium got under attack more and more over time for being segregationist).

The Gesamtschule truly is a very big problem, which you rightfully describe as "beyond the scope of this discussion." But if you want to track the decline that has intensified explosively since 2000, it is the key to achieving the goal. Basically, the Gesamtschule is a horrific failure that became the ruling model, as it has to be when egalitarianism becomes not the norm but the fundamental law of justice.

If you want more data (derived from books), feel free to contact me. I'll give you just a slight hint based on Josef Kraus's book "Spaßpädagogik" (there's a lot more to say on a lot of aspects):

From the end of the 1960s into the 1990s, the percentage of pupils in Hauptschule decreased from 67 to 33 percent.

During the same time, the percentage of pupils in Gymnasium went up from 17 to 33 percent.

The statistical relation of pupils in Hauptschule and Gymnasium in 1996 was: 37,1% Hauptschule versus 29,4% (Baden-Württemberg), 39,8% vs. 27,7% (Niedersachsen), 37,9% vs. 30,2% (Rheinland-Pfalz).

Between 2005 and 2019, the number of people finishing with a Hauptschule diploma went down from 42,1% to 28,6%. (https://www.bpb.de/kurz-knapp/zahlen-und-fakten/soziale-situation-in-deutschland/61656/bildungsstand-der-bevoelkerung/)

Given the drastic reduction of standards on all levels in the education system, these 28,6% probably aren't capable of much more than a decent 6th grader in the 1970s. Today, 24% of kids basically fail elementary school: p. 67: https://www.cesifo.org/en/publications/2022/working-paper/global-universal-basic-skills-current-deficits-and-implications - It has always been this way, and ethnic differences are just a construct, right? Take a look at the Claus Moser report from 1999: https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED465861.pdf, page 77, table 11.1 (numbers for 1997). You'll see pretty different numbers for Germany (representing the Germany I grew up in). - What should also be taken into account here is Dieter Zimmer’s book Ist Intelligenz erblich? Eine Klarstellung; it contains very spicy data.

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