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Sol Hando's avatar

In college I was friends with a lot of international students, and now in my work I deal with a lot of people who were international students, that then ended up on the H1-B track.

From my anecdotal experience, there's two classes of international students. The first class fits the stereotype of "brain gain". They are extremely intelligent, driven people, often with an ideological affinity to the United States, specifically its focus on individual excellence, hard work, freedom, and large rewards in return for great performance. These are the international students who create Startups in college, have 4.0 GPAs, and end up working at top US Banks, Law Firms or Tech Companies. When Elon Musk refers to the H1-B top 1%, these are the type of people he's familiar with in his work running elite Startups (including at one point himself).

The second class are the children of rich foreigners (or desperate parents willing to throw all their money to give their child success) who have "failed" within their own countries education system. This is particularly true in China, where the GaoCao is the final metric. No amount of studying will put you in an elite Chinese university if your IQ isn't meaningfully above average, as the GaoCao is effectively an IQ + studying test. Like the LSAT or the SAT, studying definitely gives you a leg up, but for most people there's a limit beyond which no amount of practice or studying will help you.

Having not been in the top 1% or 5%, parents throw huge amounts of money at gaming the US admission system to get into a high US university. Since Chinese eduction is so memorization-based and intense compared to the US, even average Chinese students are decently prepared to create an impressive application. Combine this with outright fraud with admission's essays, reference letters, and hiring lookalikes to sit-in on important tests (all stories I've heard from people who claimed they did this), and these underperformers get in to the US.

Some of the second class have super-rich parents, so they just live in luxury off their allowance in the US. Others, specifically those of middle class parents, have an all-or-nothing approach, where they need to get a job in order to survive, but are often woefully underprepared compared to what their credentials might suggest.

The first class of international students are the "Elite Human Capital" the H1-B system is partially designed to attract. We WANT these people, ideally all of them, from around the world, as they're the ones running the trillion-dollar tech companies that have made the US so wealthy in the past few decades. A few thousand of these people could honestly be the difference between US dominance in AI, Battery Technology, Self Driving Cars, and any other transformational technology you can imagine.

The second class of people are more difficult to deal with. The children of wealthy parents are great since they spend so much on luxury that they effectively act as a wealth transfer tool back to the US. Luxury products are usually very high margin, low labor to produce, and if a $300 meal in New York balances out a literal ton of steel from China, I think the US is getting the better end of the deal.

The mediocre students from the second class are the problem. They give all H1-B students a bad name, and generally end up underperforming everywhere they go. The ideal outcome for them is to be a below average worker in a large corporate machine that's too incompetent to fire them. They are (maybe) net-drains on the economy, but their real damage is done when they apply for H1-B on equal footing as the elite students I mention before. It's an absolute travesty that our system is giving an equal playing field to incompetent and competent people.

Whether my experience is representative, I don't know. If it is, I think a better system would be to give every high-performing student a fast-track to a Visa. Whether that's a reformed H1-B or a new category I don't know. Maybe make it conditional on any of the following;

- 2 SD above US mean in IQ

- 2 SD above US mean in starting salary

- 2 SD above US mean in educational attainment

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Maybe they can still raise the long run human capital of the US because their children outperform. See the data (from a 2021 AER paper) for incomes of sons of immigrant fathers at the 25th percentile: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/28/upshot/immigration-america-rise-poor.html

For US fathers, the sons land at the 46th income percentile. Most immigrant groups do better than that, with China and India landing around 64th. That suggests that, at least for poorer immigrants, the conditions of their original country suppressed achievement and the latent (heritable) ability is higher.

I don’t know of data for high income immigrants. On the one hand, there’s regression to the mean. On the other hand, they’ll still land well above the American average, thereby improving it.

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